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Red Templar
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:24:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:They don't give you ISK, they give you Blink Credit. You can't spend Blink Credit in-game. Stop being silly. 1. Visit Somerblink 2. Click on Referral Link to Markee Dragon (Usedto be Shattered Crystal) 3. Purchase Isk 4. 250mil isk is automatically transferred to your blink account 5. Somerblink receive a payment for you purchasing isk from Markee Dragon This could be RMT could be debated however I would say yes as isk is being used to generate real life money. In another thread I did accuse Lucas of saying CCP endorses RMT as he accused Somerblink of RMT. I disagreed with him for the reasons he gave and I still do in that regards. However he has throw somewhat of a curve ball here as I do believe this is can be a class of RMT.
Wait. What? That cant be legal.
Can you clarify for those who never used their website or bought plexes via other vendors than ccp.
What you mean by #3 - Puchase isk?
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:28:00 -
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Swidgen wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Blink credits are the equivalent of isk, you are just forced to gamble with them. This is where your entire argument falls apart. That's like saying Monopoly Money is the equivalent of USD, you are just forced to play Monopoly to use it. The "worth" of blink credits is essentially zero.
Monopoly money is real money if you can play with them and win real prizes like real estate.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:22:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:
Change #3 to purchase GTC. Which is probably why this is "okay."
a) GTC purchased. CCP and Markee Dragon make $$$.
b) You receive GTC and blink credit.
c) On a large sample size, some of that blink credit will be converted to isk.
d) Somerblink receives $$$ from Markee dragon.
So, you give $$$ to Markee Dragon. You will, on a large sample size, get some isk from Somer Blink through wins from blink credit. Somer gets $$$.
Don't think this counts as RMT per se, but maybe someone else can explain it better.
Does this work only if GTC are involved? What if i have other partners, refferals, online shops, whatever that sell in other stuff as well.
Just as example:
1. I create a site where people can play for credits that they get from converting isk. Online isk casino.
2. I give out credits if they buy something from referral site. Like postcards or t-shirts. Buy 10$ postcard, get 10 credits, that each give you a chance to win 100kk isk.
3. Get a cut from $ spent on merchandise. ( that referral shop can as well be yours and sell total ****, but with credit rewards)
4. ????
5. Profit.
As i understand, it would be against the rules with any other service or merchandise other than GTC?
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:32:00 -
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Tiffany Kautsuo wrote:Sigh.
Because you are purchasing into this agreement not with any money, you are buying a GTC
Right?
You get a GTC whoopedey door.
But because you bought the GTC through an affiliate you are eligible for an amount of tokens from a site.
People are getting a muddled idea because although there is real money exchanging hands.
You buy from markee and get a GTC that us one transaction.
If you came to markee from SOMER then you can get a bonus with them.
You did not pay SOMER you are not buying anything at all through SOMER.
SOMER is giving you a free bonus for "using his friend"
ergo no RMT. Your only interaction with SOMER over this entire process is getting free tokens.
Apparently that can be called a loophole.
Yes technically they dont give you isk directly. They give you credits which you can turn to isk.
So clarification is needed if such a scheme is allowed. If it is, it opens door to all kinds of nasty things.
You can open 10 "friends" websites, and give out Not-Isk-But-Can-Be-Turned-To-Isk-Credits for buying items or services from them for real money.
After all its just "referrals" and you are not paying ISK to anyone, so it should be alright?
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:37:00 -
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So basically you are saying that if i dont sell ISK directly, but cover them with some scheme, its totally ok?
I can make my own web casino, where everybody wins, if they buy something from affiliated site and it will not be counted as RMT.
Im pretty sure the name of the topic speaks for itself, its a question for CCP, if such a methodology allowed to receive real money in exchange for isk (even if not directly but through some links or cycles of gambling).
Somer is just an example, maybe not perfect, but it illustrates somewhat how it can be viewed as RMT, from certain angle, and how similar approach can be used to create real RMT shop under the cover of "not selling isk directly".
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